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Know nothing about your ‘bug site’ and yeah yeah we all work
many jobs… try lowpaying one 8 am until -7 or 9pm
and then going to babysit a hyper kid straight from that job
to work until 12:15 ..AM!!!!! That was my schedule, PLUS a
college workload. Could not believe your unprofessional and
snotty response to a person who asked you to identify something
(uh,it IS an identifying site, cant handle it or dont have
time, take it down! )and the response was ‘did your
mommy do your homework for you’ what is that all about? What?!
Did YOUR mommy teach you any manners? If I had
a million jobs and was ‘very active’ in community then i wouldnt
post or maintain a site if it was getting too many letters.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Unsigned (but name on email account is Someone Nowhere)

Dear Someone Nowhere,
You are absolutely right. You are also absolutely right to
take the time from your busy no gratification life to write
this email to a person you don’t know. Your grammar is also
absolutely correct. Writing that falsity just gave us the
shivers. We will now paraphrase the writing of novelist Andre
Gide who once wrote something akin to: Sometimes one
must allow others to be right because it consoles them for
being nothing else.
With that said, your lack of
sensitivity to the hyperactivity of the unfortunate child
who is left in your care should be grounds for dismissal,
especially since the time stamp on your email indicates that
it was sent during the time you were being paid to supervise
that child. One can only wonder how someone with no interest
in a bug site could delve so deeply into our archives as to
find that long ago letter while being paid to supervise a
child. Multi-tasking like that will no doubt take you far
in life, but nowhere that we would care to go ourselves.

More Maniacal Nonsensical Ramblings

Two jobs? Surpirsed you have time . Who is this psycho sending messages??I will now quote Celine Walko: Garbage in, garbage out.. an empty barrel makes the most noise.. this psycho was blocked and responded again , what does that tell you ?? Don’t want to hear from you,not reading your message ha nor your site.. go away.
You have spell check, go use it.. lol, proofread your own work much? Let’s talk about who
needs to use ‘spellcheck’ (that is again a quote from Celine, deal with her directly).
What the are you talking about?? . You win nastiest’host’ award’ talkto my orofessor whos e child we watch,, and not watching when writing letters, mr anal retnentive much? We are not ‘perusers’ of your site and ahve no idea what your are talking about.. as we are not (ha!0a ‘customer’ and never would be.. GET A LIFE .. summer vacation, what’s that? And when this individual was blocked it means we dont wish to hear from mr snotty.. or ms.. whoever u are..we dont read your site.. who ARE you??????? Do not message us again . Surprised someone with ‘two full time jobs’ has the time.. summer vacation huh? what is that?h the listener award? You are aT EACHER ?! ..wouldnt be teaching long at my school, oh and when someone blocks you and you continue to contact.. let’s talk about who needs ‘dismissal’. and you have
spell check, use it. GO BE PRODUCTIVE., nor did we bother to read your childish, reaffirmation of your immaturity response.. my god! people like this are ‘active’ in community?

A Reader Comments: 18 September 2008
unethical for professor to have student babysitter
Wow… Babysitting for their own professor? Do their classmates know? Forget mommy–in this case it looks like their PROFESSOR does their homework for them directly! NO WONDER they were so offended by that thought. Wait, it might be spelled “fropfsessos,” let me spell-check that. Spellcheck? ‘ “Spell check” ‘?? Apparently someone knows or cares if there is officially a space between these two words, yet calls YOU mr. anal retentive… How about @#$%!! check?? This person is quite silly, being sensitive enough to be VERY offended by rudeness, and yet responding with a deluge of it. I imagine they mainly play with themselves throughout the work day, mentally or otherwise, and then spend their free time whining about how tough it was, what holy martyrs they are. Ugh! I kind of wish i hadnt been given the opportunity to read all that nastiness. I was planning on researching an insect. However, it was ultimately entertaining…the psychology of brats is kind of fascinating, no?
Ryan Bouchard (–parasitized caterpillar surgeon–)
Wakefield, RI, USA

Why is it that it is near to IMPOSSIBLE to find your email address CLEARLY displayed on your website? Are you guys COMPLETELY DAFT???? Since when is this an email address: Email the bugman AT ?????????????????????????????? ???????????
Are you truly dorks?

Dear Jonathan Ayers (who can be reached at,
While the majority of the emails we receive are complimentary, occasionally we do get unsolicited derogatory and inflamatory letters that trouble us deeply. In an effort to confront our demons, we have created the Nasty Reader page and we want to congratulate you on being awarded the fourth installment of the award. Your prize include a high profile posting on our homepage as well as a permanent position in our archives. So that our readership will have no problems locating your email address, we will make sure we link to it several times. You must be suffering from severe performance anxiety as well as personal inadequacy since it is apparent that a large majority of the web browsing public has no problem writing to us by simply clicking the Ask WTB link prominently featured at the top of each and every one of our individual pages. We do receive over 100 emails a day. We strongly suggest you seek some rage management treatment and perhaps our readership has additional suggestions for you. Our readership can email you directly, and hopefully copy us on their letters so we can post their views as well. Have a nice day.

Comment: (08/16/2008) How does it feel to be (in)famous?
Isn’t that what you wanted– to vent unneccessarily at the Bugman and his Mrs? What is wrong with you people? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or are you naturally this nasty? You need a lesson in anger management and good manners, along with giving them an apology. They don’t have to have this wonderful page for us. I check it numerous times a day myself. I love the beautiful pictures that people send in and the commentary every day. Having this website is a wonderful gift to all of us, and you don’t appreciate it. You need to get a grip along with getting a life. Oh, in case you’re that ignorant and can’t find the email address, you’re supposed to click Ask WTB. DUH!

Another Reader Comment (08/17/2008)
Dear Jonathon
Does your mommy know you’re on the internet? Your email to WTB makes me think you are 8 or 9 years old. Even if you are older, I think you ought to be supervised. Get a clue.

Faithful Reader gets nasty with Jonathan (08/17/2008)
Dafty Dork Frustrations
Dear Jonathan,
Being that on a daily basis 100s of us are able to find the means to e-mail “What’s That Bug”, it leads me to the conclusion that it must be you who is the dork and a dafty dork at that!! And … when you apparently did locate the address, instead of feeling pride in your brilliant accomplishment, you didn’t share your insect pics, but instead chose to chastise the wonderful folks who provide this amazing website. This is what I envision occurred… it’s the only explanation for such rage and frustration: You wanted to share your bug pics, but said bug was up your arse. You set up a tripod, positioned your butt, attempted to get your camera in position. The lighting wasn’t quite right, you’re itchy and uncomfortable , what with the bug hopping around in there, just refusing to sit still for a photo. Finally , after 10 minutes or so, poor bug settled down, the lighting adjusted, butt position at perfect angle to camera, you got it! After all that work & discomfort, to not be able to find an e-mail address is certainly justification to spew venom at our Bug Folks friends. I hope your bug has been released and you feel calmer. Although no photos were shared, I thank you for the entertainment. Best wishes,
A very loyal “What’s That Bug” fan

More proof that What’s That Bug? fans are a loyal group!!! (08/17/2008)
Oh Jonathan Ayres…what a hefty mistake you’ve made…
Tsk, tsk. Your email to the Bugman, specifically your overuse of punctuation and lack of manners, points to the fact that you are probably a pre-pubescent boy with little to do other than use mommy’s computer while she’s at work. Clearly she needs to impose more parental controls, and may I suggest for you a class in basic respect. I think they call it boot camp. Perhaps you ought to be practicing your “Yessir”, for if that note is any indication of your ability to control your anger, I see extended jail time in your future. I vote you “Most Likely to End Up in a Tijuana Prison”…and my guess is you have very few friends to bail you out.
M. Doy

Macintosh Representative takes issue with email abuse!!! (08/18/2008)
Macintosh is one class act! You have displayed you have none! I am Macintosh certified and am embarrassed for Macintosh that such garbage be associated with their name. I will make sure to pass this on to all the nice wonderful people at Macintosh and see if we can’t disassociate you from their name. Hope you have fun with that!

Attitude Adjustment Needed
Dear ja, You asked the great folks at What’s That Bug if they were “dorks”….how insipid!! You must be less than a dork if your found it difficult to send them an email. I have always considered myself a dork when it comes to computer tech stuff but even with my limited PC abilities, I had no trouble writing to them. Your mamma must certainly be proud of your rudeness and bad attitude. My mamma knew how to do an instant attitude adjustment. Too bad your mamma didn’t have the same knowledge!! Don’t know how old you are but you better remember one thing, always be nice to those who know more than you do!! Cordially,
A bug wit…..

Comment: (08/31/2008) Nasty Reader Awards
I love your site, it’s very interesting and helpful. It’s also entertaining that you post the nasty reader award…but I would hope that you realize that everybody has bad days and take things out on others when they shouldn’t. I’m sure you’re intelligent enough not to take someone’s rantings personally. Seems like after a week or so you’d consider taking the “Nasty Reader’s” email address out of the letter though. He/She shouldn’t suffer a lifetime of emails concerning his rude message to you, don’t you think? Just wanted to let you know my thoughts. Have a great day and thanks for helping us figure out what these bugs are!!

Hi Jenna,
We had to admit, what you wrote had a ring of truth to it, and in a moment of guilt, we removed links to both Jonathan Ayres and one other individual in the Nasty Readers archives. We did not however remove the addresses, just the link, so readers can still write letters after physically typing the address into their email program. We still feel though that there is some accountability that falls on the shoulders of the originators of the nasty emails that remains to be done. That would be an apology which is the only polite thing to do. The fact that Jonathan never apologized leads us to believe that this was more than just a bad day and probably runs far deeper in his personality, permeating daily activities. We do believe though, as several respondants indicated, that Jonathan is not an adult, and that he might be the playground bully. The first two recipients of the Nasty Reader Award wrote to apologize, though one claimed the nasty email originated with her “extremely rude and unprincipled boyfriend,” and we immediately removed the link when we received her letter.

unidentified Caterpillars
Dear ladies and gentlemen,
regularly I take a look at your web site. I myself am a biologist from Germany. At the moment I am identifiying caterpillars and moth prints for a reprint of Maria Sibylla Merians book Metamorphosis Insectorum Surinamensium (1705) published by TASCHEN VERLAG Köln (probably 2008/2009). Because there are still a lot of unidentified moths and caterpillars in her images – although a lot of entomologists like in 1982 William Stearn (BM London) or recently (2008) Sandrine Ulenberg, an entomologist from Amsterdam, determined the depictions of insects before – I became engaged in it. With the help of your page whatsthatbug?, I managed to identify some (not all) of the unidentified caterpillars and moth-species in Merians book. Thank you!
The other information is: I found an interesting web site in which a huge larviform beetle image is seen, which you didnt identify up to now. I´ll send it. It is not a huge caterpillar but a beetle, which you have documented several times in the past. I hope I could help you. Yours sincerely
Katharina Schmidt-Loske, Bremen
I am sure you know the huge exhibition on “M.S. Merian and her daughters”, now at the Paul Ghetty Museum. Don´t you?

Hi Katharina,
Please let us know the date and page on our website when you provide the larviform beetle identification. I will be doing a lecture in conjunction with the Merian exhibit this month. I am copying Stephanie Schrader, the curator of the show on this email. I eagerly await any information you can provide.
Daniel Marlos

thanks for nothing asshole

Jen Cifone

(05/03/2008) (no subject)

i was wondering if u could tell me what this bug is i looked
online and couldnt find it the pics arent very good because
the bugs would not stop moveing im not sure if its a worm
or laravae but i was hopeing maby you could help they keep
crawling up our drain and into our  bathtube and we would
really like to know what we are dealing with if you could
reply as soon as possible that would be great thank you.

jen cifone

Dear Jen Cifone,

When we opened your email today, we couldn’t imagine what
we had done to deserve such a vehement response coupled with
such a strong personal insult. Rarely do we encounter such
bitterness in our readership. We searched our email inbox
and found the query your wrote the day before and can only
deduce that your anger stems from the fact that you did not
get a response from us within 24 hours. We will now attempt
to remedy that oversight. Your photo is out of focus and is
totally useless for identification purposes. We do, however,
have some personal advice for you. You might consider going
back to school to learn how to write and spell as your communication
skills are clearly lacking. Your grammar is atrocious and
we have no idea what a bathtube is. While you are improving
your basic skills, you might want to consider enrolling in
a photography class so you can take images that will be helpful
for any further identifications you desire. You might also
want to consider rounding out your re-education by enrolling
in an etiquette class. That will probably also benefit you
greatly. On a positive note, you have been awarded our Third
Ever Nasty Reader Award. Congratulations.
Additionally, we will open the identification of your mysterious
blurry creature to our readership, who may have suggestions
or general comments to pass your way. By all means readership,
write to Jen Cifone at
and tell her what you think.

Ed. Note: We seriously believe that Jen Cifone
has a bet going that she could win the Nasty
Reader Award
. We can’t imagine anyone composing her original
letter with such blatant disregard for the English language
nor anyone with half a brain thinking they could get that
blurry photo identified.

Reader Comment


Please don’t drink so much whilst photographing bugs, and
try to drink even less when emailing.  These guys are really
busy and while they have a great sense of humor (they still
accept email from me!) they will only laugh if you tell them
that you were just trying to be funny. Which I hope was the
case because you really can’t be serious with that photo.
And if  the second email was from your drunk boyfriend, I’d
view this as a red flag.


Update: (05/05/2008) Fuzzy Tubeworms

OMFG!!  RUN!!  RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!  ok, a slow walk would
be fine…they aren’t very fast. I think she has FUZZYTUB
WORMS !  They are often mis-identified as “Fuzzy tube worms”
but those are believed to be extinct due to over harvesting
of the fuzz for ladies hats back in the 1920’s and cheap gin
(if you could call it that) during prohibition.  A sad, sad
story, but I digress…. If this truly IS a fuzzytub worm
(timeto scrubthetubus ), she needs to get into rehab NOW as
things will only get worse.  “Prickly True Wheel Bugs” will
be spotted next and if so, may God help her as their sting
is absolutely annoying if even noticed by the poor bite victim.
Next of course comes the dreaded “Pink Elephant” which although
not a bug in any sense, the doctors in rehab can charge the
patient or their insurance company three times the rate of
Prickly True Wheel Bugs (the standard purple PTWB or the less
common “Arisaid Hebridean” Tartan dress plaid PTWB.) But then,
if she had a Arsaid Hebridean PTWB she’d be a millionaire
and insurance wouldn’t matter now, would it? Ah, never mind.
She deserves what she gets.  Mean girl. Oh, $#!* (edited for
content).  I’m out of wine.  Well, it’s time to go to bed
anyway. Much love!


Near Chicago

Comment (05/09/2008)

Job well done! 🙂

Dear Daniel & Lisa Anne,

I’m a freaquent reader of your site since I’ve come accross
it some months ago. Even though I’ve never submitted to your
website, I find it very interesting and informative. I must
admit I was horrified to come accross your Nasty Reader Awards
tonight however and had to speak up. To think people still
behave this way is absolutely unthinkable. They think nothing
of sending such insulting e-mails and have no patience what-so-ever
without even knowing who they’re speaking to. Thinking since
they don’t know you and will never have to face you, then
there’s no consequence or reason to feel any remorse for their rude
behavior! It’s embarrassing. So I wanted to let you ladies
know how much I appreciate your hard work and devotion to
your site and your fans. Even though you have such demandig
carreers (which I’m sure take up most of your time to begin
with) you still find time for your loyal (and not so loyal)
fans. Well done ladies! Keep up the good work!


Thank your for your thoughtful letter Val, but the last
we checked, Daniel was still a man. Your theory of face to
face confrontation stretches much wider than just the internet.
We have long believed that people feel isolated while driving
their motor vehicles, and this isolation contributes to road
rage. We personally always seek eye contact when attempting
to change lanes in a difficult traffic snarl since many drivers
tend to ignore a turn signal, but will rarely ignore a face
with a pointing finger. Modern day warfare is another excellent
example of what can happen when we lose touch of the fact
that people are individuals.

Update: (05/15/2008) Nasty reader award
Hello Mr. Bugperson(s) (I believe you have several people
on your staff),
I’m sorry you had to encounter that subspecies “homo sapiens
ignoramus jerkwaddus” named Jen Cifone. Letters like that
are what happen when uninvolved parents (who later end up
on Nanny 911 or Supernanny) give their 8 year old a cell phone.
You should be content in the fact that Jen will reach her
full potential when you encounter her and she says “Would
you like fries with that?” I must express my appreciation
at your expertise in the world of invertebrates, and how you
freely share it with the public. Thank you for your great
Grand Rapids, MI

Thanks Chuck, but we just imagined her spitting in those

September 12, 2009
Love your site. Part of what makes the WWW so cool !!
Laughed till I cried at “Joanne Near Chicago’s” response to Jen Cifone’s blurry photo and nasty response to you.
Thank you for putting together something so fun AND edjucashunal!
Gary & DJ

thanks for the follow up
Sorry I wasted my time thinking you would help like your site says. Not even a return email, or even an automated response. sad Thought you were a legitimate site

Dear Dawn,
Congratulations, you are the recipient of our Nasty Reader Award. Our readership understands that we are not able to respond to each of the 100 or more emails we receive daily. We do not give automated responses. We give our readership personal attention as much as we are able. Additionally, we lost internet access due to Time Warner outages in our area several times in the past few weeks, which increased our workload when service returned. Others of our readers have resubmitted a request, sometimes several times before we were able to devote attention to their queries. Had you resubmitted a letter and an image, you might be getting an identification right now, but then you would not be gracing our homepage with your Nasty Reader Award. We are guessing that your email address is computer shorthand for Dawn Obnoxious. Perhaps our readership would like to email you some of their thoughts to Dawnobxjdb4@edited

(08/10/2007) Our Readership Responds
(08/10/2007) Dawn Obnoxious
Sure, sic us on her! We’ll put our arm in a fire up to here for you any day! (pointing to the first knuckle on her right pinky finger)

Get a Grip!
Does your mommy know that you’re playing with the computer? Where did you EVER get the idea that you were so special? If you think you’re so entitled to get special treatment on the internet, what are you like in real life? “Sorry I wasted my time thinking you would help like your site says.” Uh, you’re wasting your time being on the internet period.

Maybe you don’t realize the “What’s That Bug” website is run by two teachers and they field question from everywhere in the world. Considering we humans have identified about 20% of all the earths insects and there are about 6 billion people, you can see how they may not be able to answer every single question. They are good people who like bugs. Not to mention patient, too. I offer the fact they answer the same House Centipede and Cob Web Spider over and over and over as proof. I ask you to please be patient, also. Sometimes you have to submit the same photo two or three times. While you’re waiting for a reply, I suggest you browse through the hundreds of pictures already posted. (The menu is on the left) There you will find pictures of many bugs and maybe find the answer to your question. Good luck to you. And no, I am not affiliated with them in any other way then actually getting a photo on the site.

Dawn responds to previous emails
(08/10/2007) setting me straight
Thank you for the additional feedback. My apologies, I thought I had contacted a larger firm. In this instant information age , it seems anyone and everyone has a site, and the managing of said sites can be overwhelming. In the future I shall research a little more before just contacting on a whim. Good luck to those two ladies and their site.

Pat comes to our Defense
(08/13/2007) obnoxious letter to ‘what’’
Just wanted to forward this to you and to let you know you have one of the best websites I have ever visited and appreciate your effort to answer as many questions as you can…or check with your ‘experts’ if you don’t know…thank you again for such a great service….
Hawk Point, MO
Even tho’ you must not understand that you are not the only person in the world, and that there is no way any web site could reply to every submission they recieve ,you surely can see that Daniel and Lisa Anne choose very carefully and thoughtfully so as to generate the most information about the hundreds of thousands of bugs and insects, etc. in our world their readers have questions about. I am stunned that anyone could find fault with such an outstanding and informative site. If they don’t have the information or knowledge, they query an expert in that field, or recommed a web site to peruse. I’m sure I am not the only one who gives thanks for this highly informative and lovely website. Hope your day gets better, ’cause I can tell by your letter it’s not too good right now….

Update: Reader Wants Book Thrown at Us!!!
(04/05/2008) Nasty Reader Award
For being educated women, your behavior in giving and posting your abusive rant against a reader who made an insulting comment is reprehensible. It was immature and spiteful. Inviting other viewers to contact the women you are angry with is vengeful and abusive. You should be charged for your violation of these women’s privacy. I hope they contact the police and your internet provider and although you are providing a valuable service, I hope your site gets shut down until the two of you grow up or learn some mediation skills. Shame on you for abusing your position.

Hi Terah (name taken from email address but not signed on anonymous email),
We will not be posting your email address to sic our readership on you directly, but we want to come to our own defense in this matter. It seems you want the book thrown at us and feel the judge should show no mercy. We never invaded anyone’s privacy. We did not seek out any random person to have an “abusive rant against.” People who write to our site do so with the understanding that letters are posted. If someone writes to us, we feel we have the right to respond, and our forum for response is an online posting. We are not cyber-stalking anyone, merely responding to a letter. We doubt that the cyber-police, the LAPD in our local station, nor our internet provider will find anything illegal in what we have done. We are providing a free and entertaining service, and we resent being attacked. People who want their privacy maintained should not be sending virulent emails to websites, and if they do, they need to accept the consequences of FREE SPEECH, our first amendment right in case you are not educated enough to know about it. Regarding our maturity or lack thereof, we have always believed that a certain amount of immaturity is the key to youth.

Please Read..New Charitable Bug Auction Website!
I’ve written you guys numerous times before, over the years and have never received a reply, but I am not deterred! Whatsthatbug is STILL my very favorite bug website EVER, and I know you guys are CRAZY busy, but please please please take a few moments to consider my request…it’s for a good cause. I am requesting that you include a link on your links page to my new Bug Auction website. It is for a good cause where money raised is donated to various organizations that do good things for bugs. You can read a little bit about it at the membership page:
I can provide a huge list of references if necessary. Thank you for your time,
Peter Clausen
503-277-8772 in Tualatin, Oregon