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Sawfly

What’s this bug ?
Location: Vancouver BC
January 29, 2012 7:21 pm
Hello. At Christmas time I bought a Douglas fir and found a cocoon on it, which I housed in a jar. The cocoon opened today with this not-a-butterfly bug. 4 wings. 2 larger ones and 2 sort of smaller fairy wings on top. About an inch long. I was hoping that you could please help me identify it. I don’t know where the trees were grown. I tried to take some photos but he won’t sit still. He likes honey. The cocoon is in the photo. Thank you a lot !
Signature: Rhonda

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Sawfly emerges from Cocoon

Dear Rhonda,
We are able to identify your insect as a Sawfly.  Sawflies are nonstinging relatives of bees and wasps that often have larvae that are mistaken for caterpillars.  Your individual most closely resembles the Cimbicid Sawflies (see BugGuide), possibly even the Elm Sawfly, though it looks more to us like a member of the genus
Trichiosoma which we also found on BugGuide.  The Cimbicid Sawflies are the largest North American Sawflies and they have clubbed antennae like your individual, but the information we have found does not list Douglas Fir as a host plant for the larvae.  They feed on deciduous plants including elm, honeysuckle and cherry according to BugGuide.  We did do a search for Sawflies that feed on Douglas Fir and we found an Oregon State webpage devoted to members of the genus Neodiprion, called the Douglas Fir Sawflies or Balsam Fir Sawflies, however the images posted to BugGuide do not resemble your individual.  It is entirely possible that your Sawfly was feeding on another plant and somehow the cocoon was spun on the Douglas Fir.  The Forestry Images Website indicates of the genus Cimbex (and so possibly also other members of the family Cimbicidae) that “The larvae spin tough, papery cocoons in the litter or just below the surface of the soil.”  There is also a photo of the cocoon of a Cimbex Sawfly on the Forestry Images website that looks like your cocoon.

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Sawfly emerges from Cocoon

We are hoping that one of our readers will eventually be able to assist us in a more definitive identification.

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Cimbex Sawfly

Dear Daniel
Thank you so much for your help. I will do my best to keep him alive until the weather warms up. Too bad he doesn’t like roses or lettuce or anything else that’s lurking about in my fridge. He is quite an inquisitive little bug and checks out everything I give him.
Thanks again,
Rhonda

 

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Australian Sawfly, we believe

Wasp?
Location: Perth, Western Australia
December 21, 2011 2:30 am
I was wondering if you can identify this wasp or fly for me. It was on my clothes line on a peg at 7am on 20/12/11. It was quite big – 3cm not including the antenna, and was photographed in Perth, Western Australia.
Signature: Jennifer O

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Sawfly, possibly

Dear Jennifer O,
In our opinion, this appears to be a Sawfly.  Sawflies are in the same order, Hymenoptera, as Wasps, Bees and Ants, but Sawflies do not sting.  We cannot find a match on the Brisbane Insect website, nor did we find a convincing match on the Lifeunseen website.  The Australian Museum website indicates there are 176 species in Australia.  Larvae of Sawflies are sometimes mistaken for caterpillars and they are communal feeders that may defoliate plants if they are especially numerous.  Perhaps one of our readers will be able to either correct our identification or provide a matching online image that may identify the species.

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Unknown Sawfly, we believe

Fork-Horned Sawfly

Double antennae’d Diprionid!
Location: Central Illinois
December 3, 2011 8:04 pm
Hey there! I thought I’d send in some pics of a very interesting sawfly I found a couple months back, but only got to keying a couple weeks ago. Seems this little Diprionid has forked antennae! Really it only has two antennae, with only two scapes and pedicels, but four flegelli. Do you think this is normal for the species, or did I stumble upon a mutant? It’s got my entomology professor (and me!) baffled.
As always, loving the site! It really helped me stay motivated in my Entomology class. Thanks for all your work maintaining it!
Signature: Entomologist in Training

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Fork-Horned Sawfly

Dear Entomologist in Training,
By far you have better qualifications to answer that question than our entire staff combined.  We will post your intriguing images and letter and we hope our readership can provide any information.

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Fork-Horned Sawfly

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Pigeon Horntail

Pigeon Horntail… I think.
Location: Westminster, Md
November 7, 2011 7:10 pm
From looking at other photos on this website I think that this is a Pigeon Horntail. Either way it was a cool looking bug and I wanted to share.
Signature: Billy

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Pigeon Horntail

Hi Billy,
We are happy to hear you were able to identify your Pigeon Horntail by searching through our archives.  Pigeon Horntails are Wood Wasps and the larvae are found burrowing in dead and dying trees.  There are lighter and darker variations in coloration, and the lighter color of your individual is not as common, but it is documented on BugGuide.

Dogwood Sawfly

Mysterious White Caterpillars
Location: Southern New Hampshire
October 6, 2011 3:34 pm
We get these on our dogwood and ONLY our dogwood every early autumn. The seem to shed skins, curl into a ball and change colors to a yellow and blackish color. Then they seem to just disappear, leaving dark spots on the leaves where they were curled up.
Signature: TalulaJaneSmiles

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Dogwood Sawfly

Dear TalulaJaneSmiles,
You have Dogwood Sawflies,
Macremphytus tarsatus.  Though they resemble caterpillars, Sawflies are classified with the wasps and bees.  According to BugGuide:  “Young larvae are covered with a powdery white waxy coating. Mature larvae are yellow beneath with black spots or cross-stripes above.”  The University of Minnesota Entomology website has a very informative pdf on the Dogwood Sawfly and the Penn State Woody Ornamental Integrated Pest Management web page states:  “Dogwood Sawfly, Macremphytus tarsatus, is a significant pest to dogwood (Cornus) species. Because the Dogwood Sawfly takes on several forms while in the larval stage, it may not be easy to identify. Even the first instars can devour small portions of leaves, with groups of them producing a skeletonized appearance to the leaves. However, the larger final instar can consume entire leaves, leaving only the tougher leaf midribs.” 

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Asian Horntail from Japan

Japanese Pigeon Horntail?
Location: Shiroi City, Chiba Prefecture, Japan
September 30, 2011 11:42 pm
Found this pretty insect loitering outside of my apartment here in Japan. Was initially put off the by the size of its stinger, but could never pass up such a golden photo opportunity.
Signature: Tori

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Asian Horntail

Hi Tori,
This is some species of Horntail in the family Siricidae, and we believe it may be the Asian Horntial,
Eriotremex formosanus, which we found pictured on the Urban Forestry website because the species was accidentally introduced to North America in infested shipping crates.  It is also pictured on the SmugMug website.

Pigeon Horntail stepped on by Steve’s mom

big orange wasp?
Location: St. Charles, Missouri
September 29, 2011 4:34 pm
I saw this on the sidewalk today. It was about an inch and a half long. Unfortunately, I couldn’t take the picture until after my mom stepped on it! Please help!?
Signature: Steve

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Pigeon Horntail

Dear Steve,
We hope the reason your mom stepped on this harmless Pigeon Horntail is because she didn’t see it while she was walking, but we suspect otherwise, so we are tagging this as Unnecessary Carnage.  Pigeon Horntails are Wood Wasps and they do not sting.  The Pigeon Horntail was selected as our Bug of the Month for September 2011.

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Pigeon Horntail

Never seen before
Location: Macomb County, MI
September 25, 2011 3:10 pm
I’ve never seen this before. Do you know what kind of bug it is and is it dangerous?
Signature: Thank you very much. Ken

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Pigeon Horntail

Hi Ken,
This Pigeon Horntail is a harmless Wood Wasp.  What appears to be a formidable stinger is actually an ovipositor that the female uses to penetrate wood to lay her eggs.  Any human less dense than wood could potentially be penetrated by a female Wood Wasp, though we have never received a report of that occurrence.  We have gotten some nice recent photos of Giant Ichneumons, which are the primary predator of the Pigeon Horntail.

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