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Immature Spiny Flower Mantis from South Africa

mantis unidentified south africa 300x267 Immature Spiny Flower Mantis from South Africa

Spiny Flower Mantis

Spikey Purple Bug
August 6, 2009
All I know about this bug is that it is from South Africa. The person who took it thought it was a Preying Mantis, but I’m not so sure. Also, it appears to be standing on some sort of equally strange-looking plant.
Chris
South Africa

Dear Chris,
This photo is significantly lacking in the type of details that would enable us to determine if the insect is a Mantis, but our first impression is that it is a Mantis.  That is a guess and we could not locate any unusual Mantids from South Africa that match this image.  We did find a photo on the Animal Photo Album Website that appears to be this Mantis and it is labeled a Pink Flower Praying Mantis, but there is no information as to its origins or scientific name.   Can you provide any information as to its size?  Perhaps one of our readers can supply us with an identification.

Update from Karl
I believe your mantid is a Spiny Flower Mantis nymph in the genus Pseudocreobotra (Mantodea: Hymenopodidae). It is either P. ocellata (my guess) or P. wahlbergii. The two species are very similar so I can’t say with certainty.  Coloration among nymphs seems quite variable, ranging from white to brilliant pink, but there are always some areas with a greenish tinge. The adults look quite different, but are as or even  more spectacular. Both species are popular among mantis breeding enthusiasts so there are a lot of photos on the internet. If you type the genus name into the “What’s that Bug” search engine you will find at least four previous postings showing both nymphs and adults. Regards.  K

Chris:
I forgot to add this link to a photo that looks pretty much identical to the one you posted (just a different perspective). You can see that the “spines” are mostly located on the underside of the abdomen which is folded up and over the rest of the body (a common posture for mantids). It does present a confusing image. Cheers.  K

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probably female Grasslike Mantis

Please help us settle a question
August 2, 2009
A little girl caught this insect at Brazos Bend State Park yesterday, and brought it back to the Nature Center for identification.  Some of the volunteers said it was a Walking Stick.  Others said it was some type of Mantid, possibly a juvenile since it did not appear to have wings.
Please let me know what it really is so I can let the little girl know..
Thank you very much.
Glen Kilgore
Brazos Bend State Park Volunteer (southeast Texas)

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Female Grasslike Mantis

Hi Glen,
This is most definitely a Mantis, and we believe it is a female Grasslike Mantis, Thesprotia graminis based on images posted to BugGuide.  According to BugGuide:
A long, slender mantis that is often confused with a walkingstick, especially when it moves with its forearms outstretched. Males have long wings and are good fliers. Females are wingless and resemble a pine needle.“  Since the timestamp of your email indicates you contacted us an hour ago, you can go online and show the girl the answer to her question.

Desert Mantis from Saudi Arabia

Is this a mantis
Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:37 PM
I know this site is geared for North America but I was hoping you or one of your others may help. I found this insect that looks very much like a mantid of some sort but im not sure if it is. I found it in the Asir Region of Saudi Arabia (Khamis Mushayt to be exact), and as long as I can keep it alive I will be able to get more pictures. One thing of note about it is that it is very fast. and blends in very well around here (the environment is very much like the southwest.
Jeremy
Asir Region Saudi Arabia

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Eremiaphila brunneri

Hi Jeremy,
In November of 2007, we received a photo of a Desert Mantis from Israel that was identified as Eremiaphila brunneri. At that time we found a website that indicated it is a pebble mimic and that it is not a good species for captivity. Your mantis looks very much like that specimen, and we feel confident that it is either the same species or a close relative. We found a photo of Eremiaphila brunneri on a University of Maryland Picture Perfect Bugs website and it is noted that it is a flightless desert species. The Macroinvertebrate Baseline Survey website states: “This mantid runs very fast on the ground and preys on ants and other small insects. Its colour is very similar to the background and extremely hard to see unless it moves.”

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Eremiaphila brunneri

Update with comments on religious beliefs
Daniel-
Thanks for the information and you are very right it is very very hard to see when it is on the ground and it is crazy fast. The only reason that my coworkers and I found it was because we were looking for scorpions and/or camel spiders, we were going to be kind of mean to the guy we work with, because its very funny…they hate anything and everything from chameleons, geckos, snakes and any insect…it has something to do with their interpretation of their religion but that’s off the subject. thanks for all the info I’ll let the other guys know.
Jeremy

Hi again Jeremy,
Your followup letter is of great interest to us. It is not like we have never heard of hatred for diversity, be it of life or lifestyle, being blamed on religious intolerance. Nor is this a taboo subject for What’s That Bug? where often court controversy in the interest of promoting a healthy dialog. Here at What’s That Bug? we try to promote tolerance and appreciation of all living creatures, though we must confess that we are now waging war with Fleas in Los Angeles, and we expect the Sugar Ants to become a major nuisance shortly.

thanks again for the reply I actually just won my war with the sugar ants by being nice to them, I think they got bored lol.  Again I know that you deal with North America but I and my friends here do appreciate the info once I told them what it was they were laughing because I called it, one thought it might be some kind of ant and another thought it was an arachnid of some sort. I hope that it is alright if we submit other queries they will all deal with saudi arabia.
gratefully
Jeremy

By all means, do submit more from Saudi Arabia.  Since we get so many emails and since getting our attention is often the trick to getting your photos posted, we would request that you start to sign your submissions as Jeremy from Saudi Arabia and indicate Saudi Arabia in the subject line as well.  Our frequent correspondent from Australia, Trevor, does the same.

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Preying Mantis

Praying Mantis
Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Spotted this fella on my dining room window one September afternoon in Oklahoma City. Thought I would share some of the amazing pics with the site.
AHayes
Oklahoma City, OK, USA

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Preying Mantis

Dear AHayes,
Thanks for sending your truly amazingly surreal image of a Preying Mantis to our website.  Selecting an unusual angle for a photograph often makes an ordinary subject appear extraordinary.  Though we in no way consider Preying Mantids to be ordinary, the odd perspective does give your photo added interest and it makes the Mantis appear positively menacing.

Preying Mantis Oothica

what is that bug
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:56 AM
we just moved into a new home country home which is something i had promised the girls as my 5 year plan and the children love it. as the snow melted they have been discovering nature and ran accross some of these. this cocoon is about as big around as a quarter. and there is one on every bush and tree. the highest i have seen them is about five foot off the ground. teach this city girl and her children something about nature. what is this bug. i hope my picture is good enough.
maria ross
ohio

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Preying Mantis Oothica

Congratulations on your move Maria,
Though we love our Los Angeles home, having a country home in Ohio, the state of our roots, would be a dream.  This is a Preying Mantis Oothica.  Come warm weather, about 200 baby Preying Mantids will emerge.  Judging by the number of Oothica you describe, you should have a healthy adult population in the Fall.  Young Mantids are often difficult to spot in the yard and garden, but flying adults with their large size are usually quite visible.

Possibly Carolina Mantid

Yellow mantid
Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I found this in mesic pine flatwoods in Lee County Florida, near Fort Myers, among grasses and saw palmetto, in October.
Keith
Ft. Myers, Florida

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Carolina Mantis??

Hi Keith,
We believe that this is a Carolina Mantis, Stagmomantis carolina. There is a photo on BugGuide that is very similar. It is a native species. We will try to get a confirmation on the ID.

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Carolina Mantis??

Update: Sunday, February 21, 2009
Daniel:
The mantid just about ‘has’ to be a species of Stagmomantis, though I don’t know if it is the Carolina mantid.  My references don’t show any similar genus from there.
Eric

Baby Mantids: Species Unknown

baby mantids!
Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:40 AM
Hello, bugman! My baby mantids are finally large enough to take a decent photo of. My grandmother brought this egg case back from Maryland to Florida while on vacation and it hatched. Is it safe to release these babies into the woods here in Florida, or would they be invasive? I think my husband is tired of me keeping them in a box on the kitchen table. Thanks!
Kelly
Panama City, Florida via Easton, Maryland

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Mantid Hatchlings

Hi Kelly,
It usually isn’t a very good idea to transport insects from one location to another. With that said, many of the Mantis species in the eastern U.S. are already non-native, like the Chinese Mantis, Tenodera aridifolia sinensis and the European Mantis, Mantis religiosa. Those two species are also frequently sold as oothica, the foamy egg sac, so that home gardeners can use natural methods to control harmful insects instead of using pesticides. Interestingly, Mantids are not particular about the insects they eat, and they frequently feed on pollinating insects like bees and butterflies. We doubt that your baby Mantids would be happy in the woods. The garden or a meadow would be more to their liking.

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Mantid Hatchlings

Cone Head Mantis from Macedonia

Insect
Sunday, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I found this insect between branches and grass. It was moving very slow and just like a spider it was able to walk on wall and similar vertical places. I would like to know what type of insect it is, because I have never seen anything like this.
Monika
Skopje, Macednia

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Mantis from Macedonia

Hi Monika,
Your insect is some species of Mantis. First we needed to do a web search on your location, and now know that Skopje is in Macedonia. We thought your insect resembled an immature Wandering Violin Mantis, Gongylus gongylodes, but the information we have been able to locate indicates that species ranges in India and Sri Lanka, but that it is a popular pet species. We have not had any luck identifying a native Macedonian Mantis that resembles your specimen, and we have concluded that there are two possibilities regarding your species’ identification. Either it is native to Macedonia and possibly a close relative of Gongylus gongylodes, or it is an accidentally escaped or released pet specimen. Hopefully, one of our readers may be able to provide a more concrete identification.

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Mantis from Macedonia

Update: from Eric Eaton
Daniel:
Have no idea on the mantid. They just aren’t my “thing….” I know there is at least one “mantis forum” bulletin board out there, so you might try them.
Eric

Update: Monday, February 6, 2009
Hi Daniel:
I believe this is Empusa fasciata. If go to the CamelPhoto.com forum there several wonderful pictures of a sub-adult photographed in Thessaloniki, Macedonia that looks like an exact match. Regards.
Karl

Thanks KArl,
The TrekNature Website calls this the Cone Head Mantis.


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