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Dogwood Sawfly Larvae

White powdery caterpillars devouring my dogwood!
The culprits look like bird droppings when curled up in a circle under the leaves. When eating (aggressively) they are 11/2 inch long caterpillars with black and white heads and a powdery coating that stuck to me when I pruned and removed leaves with pests and eggs! I sprayed the shrub and the next day there were more! One caterpillar was gold coloured-before or after the powdery coating?? Please help!
Kathy Ferguson
Goderich, (Southern) Ontario, Canada

Hi Kathy,
These are Dogwood Sawflies, Macremphytus tarsatus (or one of two other closely related species in the genus that are difficult to distinguish from one another), and they are related to wasps, so they are not Caterpillars. Dogwood Sawflies, according to BugGuide, have larvae that: “start out covered with a powdery waxy white coating, which they shed later in the year to become yellow with black cross-stripes or spots on top. “

Dusky Birch Sawfly Larvae

Caterpillers??
Hello,
We’ve have found a couple of caterpillers and can’t seem to come up with ‘what they are’. Hoping you can help us out. The yellow and black ones were found on a really young birch (two feet… the birch not the caterpillers!) Now That would be amazing!! They seemed to be chomping happily away at the leaves, and would strike a tail up and curve it along their backside when alarmed, and would also exhibit this behaviour toward each other, but with more of a whipping action. This guys were about one inch in length and only a few milliimetres around. They seem to be hairless. … Both species were found Aug. 7th, 2008, in Spruce Grove, Alberta (just outside of Edmonton), and in sunny locations. We are wondering if we can relocate them on another more mature tree, if it is a native species, as they have set up house on newly planted trees and we don’t think the wee trees can support their eating habits! I’ve attached photos, and hopefully have included all important details, if not, just contact us! Happily birding,
Michelle & Curtis

Hi Michelle and Curtis,
The “caterpillars” you found on the birch are the Larvae of the Dusky Birch Sawfly, Croesus latitarsus. It is a common error to mistake Sawflies for Caterpillars. Sawflies are related to wasps.

Club-Horned Sawfly from UK

What is this bee like insect with club antennae
Found today Doncaster UK. Is this a bee or a mimic ( has mandibles and unusual club ended antennae) ? Many thanks
Gerry Collins

Hi Gerry,
This is a Club-Horned Sawfly in the family Cimbicidae. Cimbicid Sawflies are related to both bees and wasps, and they do not sting. The larvae look like caterpillars and they are frequently mistaken for them.

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Wood Wasp

Mother of all wasps
Hello Bugman,
I took these photo’s earlier, because I’ve never seen anything like this before. According to your answers it appears to be some kind of wood wasp. And – big clue, it’s standing on a piece of wood! It apperared to be injecting the wood (a recently felled tree) with a giant black 1 inch long needle thingy (to use the technical expression). Can you tell me what it is please. And more importantly, do I win a prize? Excellent Website by the way. Kind regards,
Andrew

Hi Andrew,
Probably our biggest peeve with regards to letters we receive is a gorgeous photo of a questionable insect when no location is provided. If the photo is blurry, we can just hit delete without responding rather than to waste our precious posting time, but when the photo is as fine as yours, we feel compelled to post it. You may or may not respond with a location, which will help our readership, but will take additional time from posting additional submissions. We get letters from all over the world, and many species look remarkable similar. We believe this is an Oregon Horntail, Urocerus gigas, but if you are in South Africa, that is probably incorrect. The Oregon Horntail is a Wood Wasp. Perhaps Eric Eaton can verify your identification sans location.

Hello Daniel,
Thanks for your reply. I’m sorry about not giving you my location, but when I sit at my laptop, I assume that the rest of the world is sitting just behind the screen! A silly mistake. My location is North Yorkshire, England, UK. I’ve attached the other photo’s, sorry about the inevitable long download time. I hope they’re worth it. Kind regards,
Andrew

Thanks for the clarification Andrew. We found a website, UK Safari, that indicates the Wood Wasp, Urocerus gigas, is “fairly common throughout the UK.” Now we will need to research if the UK individuals are a different subspecies, if one or the other population was introduced, or if they are in fact native to both continents. At any rate, this is all very interesting.

Update: (07/24/2008)
Hi, Daniel:
Your reply on WTB was quite correct: Urocerus gigas is one of those “holarctic” species found on both continents (North America and Eurasia).
Eric

Pigeon Horntail

Strange wasp – can you name?
Bugman,
Attached is a photo of what I think is some kind of wasp. I live in central Missouri and took this picture this last weekend while at an outdoor birthday party. This thing was pretty big – almost 2 inches long. I’ve never seen anything quit like it. I’d love it if you could shed a little light on this strange looking critter. Thanks,
Bill Powell

Hi Bill,
This is a Pigeon Horntail, a type of Wood Wasp. The female lays her eggs in dead and dying wood and the larvae are wood boring. What looks like a fearsome stinger is the ovipositor, and the Pigeon Horntail does not sting.

Pigeon Horntail

Bug on my tree
Hello,
I noticed this bug on my Red Leaf Japanese tree. It appeared to have a stinger and also something coming from the abdomen that it was sticking into my tree. The tree appears to be dying and I was wondering if maybe the bug was the culprit.

This is a Pigeon Horntail, a type of Wood Wasp. The larvae bore into wood and if there are significant numbers, they can seriously harm your tree. Chances are better that the tree was already dying, and that attracted the Pigeon Horntail.

Sawfly Larva

Rose caterpillar 2.jpg, Rose caterpillar 1.jpg
We live in Rush, NY (just south of Rochester, NY – western NY) and found these caterpillars devouring my yellow rose bush leaves. There are black little spots/pellets on the leaves as well. Can you help us identify them and also let us know the best way to get rid of them? We would greatly appreciate your help as we have not seen these before. Thank you!!!!
Jen Davin

Hi Jen,
Though they look like caterpillars, this is actually a Sawfly Larva. Sawflies are nonstinging relatives of wasps. There are several Sawfly families, and we believe your specimen is is the family Argidae. It resembles the Birch Sawfly posted to BugGuide. Many Sawflies are social feeders, and the group often exhibits unusual group behavior, with all group members striking unusual poses and changing position in tandem.

Introduced European Saw Flies in Washington???

Please help us if you can!
I live in a condo association. Today we discovered these insects in several of our small pine cone bushes. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in all the bushes. If you could identify this caterpillar or worm I would VERY much appreciate it. Most of them are totally black and smoth and slimy like a snake and about 1 inch in length. Here is a picture: Looking forward to a reply at your earliest convenience! Thank you so much!
Gail Phillips
Bellingham, Washington

Hi Gail,
We believe you need to contact your local Department of Agriculture Insect Pest Control division. Call 360-902-2070 or email PestProgram@agr.wa.gov because we believe you have the Introduced European Saw Fly, Diprion similis. This introduced species is known in the eastern U.S., but we cannot find any indication that it has become established in Washington. BugGuide reports it as far west as Wisconsin. If you have an isolated outbreak, control might still be possible. The University of Georgia Forest Pests website indicates: “The introduced pine sawfly occurs from Canada to North Carolina, and in the central and lake states. Eastern white pine is its favored host, but it also attacks Scotch, red,jack, and Swiss mountain pines. Infestations of this insect can be very serious in young plantations of white pine grown for timber products or Christmas trees.” Several days ago we received a letter from Michigan regarding this species.

Probable Confirmation: (06/02/2008) Sawfly larvae on Whatcom pines
Hi Gail (and others )
The larvae are likely the European pine sawfly, and yes, the occurrence of the species is the first for Washington State (and Western U.S.). However, the species has been in neighboring British Columbia, Canada, for some time, including areas of the Frasier River delta which is not far from the Bellingham area. Here is a link to information on the B.C. occurrence: http://www.pfc.forestry.ca/entomology/defoliators/conifer_sawflies/european_pine_e.html I appreciate your interest and efforts to bring the situation to our attention. I am in the process of getting some of the larvae (with help from the County Extension office) to get confirmation of the species and would be glad to let you know if/when that happens. Thanks again for the contact.
Eric LaGasa
Chief Entomologist
Pest Program / Plant Protection Division
Washington State Department of Agriculture
lagasa@agr.wa.gov

Eric,
Thanks so much for your Email and information contained therein regarding our occurrence of this recent troubling ‘event’. Yes, we would very much be interested in continuing updates regarding this ‘infestation’. Also, many thanks to whatsthatbug.com for their immediate response to my inquiry in helping to identify this particular species! Sincerely,
Gail Phillips

Ed. Note: The spread of the European Pine Sawfly can be a threat to our Western logging industry as the species is proliferating without natural predators.

European Pine Sawflies

This worm is destroying my evergreen shrub
Hi Bugman!
My son found these tiny inchworm-like things on our evergreen shrub today (We live in Michigan). They were in a tight cluster of about 100 worms, each about an inch long. They have tiny, shiny black ball-like heads. In the photo they look hairy, but they aren’t. They are smooth and green all over, with no other markings at all. Upon further inspection, we found several branches of the shrub covered with these things. Several areas of the shrub have been stripped clean of needles, and there are several dying branches as well. At regular intervals (about every 10 seconds) EVERY SINGLE worm on the branch bends straight up, very quickly and in UNISON. It’s quite bizarre to watch. I did check out all of the caterpillar photos on your site, and as a result I ended up looking at Giant Gypsy Moths, Army Worms and Eastern Tent Worms, but none of those look quite like these. I’d say they look most like the Eastern Tent Worm, but there is absolutely no evidence of any tenting or any other type of shelter being formed. Perhaps I just caught them at a very early stage, prior to tent construction? Sorry, these were the best photos I could get. What do I do? They are making short work of my large shrub, and I fear that they will move onto the flowers and vegetables next… Many thanks,
Terri

I think I found it! I believe them to be European Pine Sawflies.
http://woodypestguide.cas.psu.edu/132.htm Now how to get them away from my pine…?

hi Terri,
Once we darkened and sharpened your image, we believe you are correct in your identification of the European Pine Sawfly, Neodiprion sertifer. Your excellent verbal description of their behavior supports the identification. There is an excellent image on BugGuide. There is no danger of them moving to your other plants as most insects are somewhat host specific. You can try hand picking the culprits.

Elm Sawfly

Some sort of bee?
Hey guys great site!! I’ve got a picture of some sort of bee, or maybe a fly, that landed on me last summer while I was camping in Maine, around the Katahdin area. It was probably about 3/4" long, all black with three white spots on either side and some white between the head and abdomen. I had fun observing him while he crawled around on my hand; he stayed there for quite a while. I looked on every bee and fly page on the site, but didn’t find anything that looked like my little friend. Can you help me? Thanks!
Mischa

Hi Mischa,
What a nice photo of an Elm Sawfly, Cimbex americana. The Elm Sawfly is related to bees and wasps, but does not sting. Its larva looks somewhat like a caterpillar.

Wood Wasp

What is this?
We live in Eastern Canada and burn wood for the winter. This morning I caught this bug on the floor. What type of insect is this? and is it harmfull? Attached is a pic.
Scott

Hi Scott,
This is a non-stinging female Wood Wasp, Urocerus albicornis. BugGuide does not have much species specific information. The female wasp uses that threatening looking but harmless ovipositor to deposit her eggs in dead and dying wood. The larvae are wood borers. This adult wasp probably emerged from firewood.

Pigeon Horntail

what’s that bug
Hello!
I’m from south central PA. Recently I had my tree cut down in my front yard and gave the wood to my friend. He stored it in his garage and a couple weeks later started seeing these bugs all over his garage. He said they are about 2" long and aggressive. We’ve never seen anything like it. Can you tell us what this bug is? Thank you!
Rachel

Hi Rachel,
We responded to a letter a few days back with these identical images. Perhaps it was from your friend, or perhaps your spam blocker did not allow our message to get through. If a message bounces back to us, we do not pursue trying to respond to the question. This is a Pigeon Horntail, a non-stinging Wood Wasp.


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