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Elm Leafminer

Subject: Elm Leaf-miner
Location: Fort Collins, CO
May 20, 2012 5:03 pm
There’s more than one species of Elm Leaf-miner, and I can’t discern between them, but this is one of them anyway.
Signature: Lee

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Elm Leafminer

Hi Lee,
Thanks for sending your photos.  This is a first for our site and we did a bit of quick research and we believe we have a proper identification for you.  The problem with the common name Leafminer is that it is a name that cuts across many taxonomic orders.  Like Galls which can be caused by Flies, Moths, Mites and Wasps, the same can be said of Leaf Miners.  According to the Colorado State University Extension website:  “Leafminers are insects that have a habit of feeding within leaves or needles, producing tunneling injuries. Several kinds of insects have developed this habit, including larvae of moths (Lepidoptera), beetles (Coleoptera), sawflies (Hymenoptera) and flies (Diptera). Most of these insects feed for their entire larval period within the leaf. Some will also pupate within the leaf mine, while others have larvae that cut their way out when full-grown to pupate in the soil.”  The site goes on to state:  “Sawfly Leafminers. Most sawflies chew on the surface of leaves, but four species found in Colorado develop as leafminers of woody plants. Adults are small, dark-colored, non-stinging wasps that insert eggs into the newly formed leaves. The developing larvae produce large blotch mines in leaves during late spring. The sawfly leafminers produced a single generation each year..  Elm leafminer (Kaliofenusa ulmi) is the most important species, being locally common in several Front Range cities where it develops on American, English and Siberian elms.”  A different scientific name is provided for the species on BugGuide, where it is identified by the abbreviated name Fenusa ulmi.  The University of Illinois Extension Home, Yard & Garden Pest website identifies a weevil that is also called the Elm Leafminer, but we believe your culprit is the Sawfly.  The Elm Flea Weevil is Rhynchaenus alni.

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Elm Leafminer

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Sawfly Larva and Bee

What am I seeing?
Location: Cornville, AZ
May 14, 2012
Hi Daniel -
Another pic attached for you, strange one.
What am I seeing here?
We have 10 Italian Cypress appx. 25 ft. tall here that we found the
Sawfly Larva on.  Did not want to take a chance on losing them so I
sprayed them all with Spinosad to kill the larva very early this morning.
Went back a few hours later to see if any of the larva were dead, collected
a few twigs in a plastic pail.  Some larva were dead, some still alive.  Shot
some pics and ran across the attached image.
Is this a newly hatched Sawfly of some other type of insect?
Thanks -
Lou Nigro

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Sawfly Larva and what might be a Chalcid Wasp

Hi Lou,
We are creating a brand new posting for this image and linking to your original submission.  The other insect looks like a parasitic Hymenopteran, possibly a Chalcid Wasp.  There are some similar looking Chalcids, but they have larger hind legs.  Perhaps it is just the camera angle.  The Chalcid is a Parasitic Hymenoptera.  The female lays eggs within a host, usually the larva of a moth, fly or beetle.  It stands to reason that they might also parasitize Sawfly Larvae.  Most parasitic Hymenopterans are host specific.  It is possible that this Sawfly that is underrepresented on the world wide web has a species specific parasite that preys upon it.  We are going to tag this posting as Food Chain even though much of our response is speculation. 

Eric Eaton identifies the Mining Bee
The “wasp” is a bee in the genus Perdita.  How it got there I have no idea.
Eric

Hi Daniel -
Looks like you are right on, took a few more shots from different angles.
Could be a species specific one as the coloring is a bit different.
Depth of field this close is limited, wish the pic was sharper, will shoot a
few more later.
See attached -
Canon 7D, Tamron 180mm Macro Lens, ISO 100, 1/250 sec, f18 using a Canon flash on
ETTL, manual exposure, handheld.
I’m glad to see that there are wasps in the area, even though I killed some of them,
that are helping me out.  Further spraying will be kept to a minimum.
Wasp measured appx. 2mm in length.
Thanks -
Lou

Hi again Lou,
Since we were wrong about the Wasp and it actually being a Bee, we suspect it was collateral damage from your insecticide.  We are not sure why it was found on the Sawfly.

Sawfly Larva, possibly Cypress Sawfly

Need ID
Location: Cornville, AZ
May 6, 2012 11:19 am
Found on an Arizona Cypress and an Italian Cypress, need an ID.
Thanks -
Signature: Lou

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Possibly Cypress Sawfly Larva

Hi Lou,
Though it looks like a caterpillar, this is actually the larva of a Sawfly.  Sawflies are related to bees and wasps, but they do not sting.  When larvae are plentiful, they can defoliate trees and introduced species of Sawflies can be especially problematic.  We did find a matching photo on BugGuide by searching key words like “cypress” and “Arizona” however, the individual is only identified to the family level Tenthredinidae.  We found a reference, but no image, on the Pests of Landscape Trees and Shrubs:  An integrated pest management guide by Steve H. Dreistadt online, and it states:  “Cypress Sawfly
Susana cupressi  About one-half dozen Susana species sawflies feed on broad-needled conifers in the western United States.  The most important species in California, primarily in the south, is the cypress sawfly.  Cypress sawfly primarily damages cypress, but reportedly also feeds on arborvitae and juniper.  Adult wasps are black and yellow.  Larvae are grayish green with rows of whitish dots.  The cypress sawfly spends the winter in a cocoon in the soil and has one generation per year.”  Though the description does not mention a red head, the gray green color and white spots seems to fit.  We are unable to locate a photo to verify this online. 

Hi Daniel -
Thanks for the speedy reply, info is appreciated.
Will do some additional research based on what you said and will
forward any new info that I find to you.
Many thanks -
One more pic attached, about 1/2′ long, this is a dead one.
Lou

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Probably Cypress Sawfly

Hi Daniel -
Took a few more shots, confirmed your ID again.
See attached, note the 6 pairs of Prolegs that do not have ‘hooks’ on them as described here -
6 pairs of Prolegs without hooks clearly visible -
Prolegs: The prolegs are stumpy legs that let the caterpillar climb very well, even up vertical surfaces. Caterpillars usually have five pairs of stumpy prolegs on the abdomen. These prolegs have crochets (small grasping hooks) on them. The last pair of prolegs are called anal prolegs; they are at the very end of a caterpillar’s abdomen (hind region). These prolegs disappear in the adult.
Also note that mine has two eyes caterpillars have 6 simple eyes usually as noted here -
Caterpillars have six pairs of simple eyes (ocelli). Ocelli (also called stemmata) are small, simple eyes that can detect changes in light intensity, but cannot form an image. Ocelli are composed of photoreceptors (light-sensitive cells) and pigments. Ocelli are usually located in two clusters of six eyes on the sides of a larva’s head.
More info here -
Sawfly Larva or Caterpillar?
How to Tell the Difference Between Sawfly Larvae and Caterpillars
By Debbie Hadley, About.com Guide

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Probably Cypress Sawfly

Thanks for all the additional information Lou.

Found a web site with lots of info, here is a link to a Sawfly Larva pic like the
one we found here.
http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=2121084
Lou

Hi again Lou,
In our opinion, the link you provided to the conifer sawfly
Gilpinia frutetorum (Fabricius) is not the species you submitted in your photos.  The host plant is listed as red pine, not cypress.

Update:  May 12, 2012
Hi Daniel -
Found a few more here, pics attached, munching away on an Italian Cypress.
Web searches indicate that it’s a Susana Cupressi, a Cypress Sawfly.  Not much in the way
of images available for ID, hope the ones I send make it easier for someone else to
ID these guys.
We also have five or more species of Pine Sawflies in the area, some look very similar.
They had been absent in the area for many years and started showing up again a few years ago.
BT will not kill them but many insecticides like Sevin will.  Most times the infestation is not wide
spread enough for concern, but one must be watchful.
Luckily we have only found a few as we have 13 Italian Cypress, some Arizona Cypress, and
6 recently planted Spartan Juniper.  Will keep an eye on all of them.
Thanks for your assistance.
Lou Nigro

Hi Lou,
We appreciate the photos that you attached and they will be a great help to our readers.  Of especial significance is that they support our initial tentative identification, but we were unable to locate any images to support that identification.  We do not post photos taken from other websites, and we cannot locate the websites where you found those photos.  Can you please send a link?  We will then post the link.

Hi Daniel -
Think I confused you.  The three pics I sent were shot here this morning.
I found one image of a Susana Cupressi on the Web, I find references to it,
but only one image here -
http://bugguide.net/node/view/393948/bgimage
An exact match to mine found in a county South of here.  They thought is was a caterpillar and did
not identify it as a Sawfly.
There are lots of images of other types of Sawflies, one attached is a Black Headed Pine Sawfly.
Not the same species as mine but almost an exact match except for the head color.  Found at
http://www.ipmimages.org/search/action.cfm?q=sawfly
Lots of confusion on this one, not very well known.  Our local bug expert at the garden center
said he has not seen one around here for years, he was quite surprised to see the live one we
brought him.
Lou

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Cypress Sawfly

Great.  If they are your photos, we will post them.

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Cypress Sawfly

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Elm Sawfly

What is this bug?
Location: Duluth, Minnesota
April 6, 2012 5:19 pm
I saw this bug on a hike, in June 2011, In Duluth Minnesota.
I am curious to know what it is.
Signature: Hi Heidi

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Elm Sawfly

Hi Heidi,
This impressive creature is an Elm Sawfly, a nonstinging relative of wasps and bees.  The larvae of the Elm Sawfly are frequently mistaken for caterpillars.

Spotted Wood Wasp

What is this bug in my house?
Location: Northern Indiana
April 5, 2012 10:41 am
White antenna, wings, body has stinger. Looks like a carpenter ant or termite swarmer, but has a stinger and white antenna
pic #1 is view from the top
pic #2 is bottom view of bug
Signature: from Indiana

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Spotted Wood Wasp

Though we did not recognize this insect, we thought it resembled some Wood Wasps we have seen.  We quickly identified it as a Spotted Wood Wasp, Xiphydria maculata, thanks to an excellent photo posted to BugGuide.  The antennae really are quite distinctive.

Sawfly

What’s this bug ?
Location: Vancouver BC
January 29, 2012 7:21 pm
Hello. At Christmas time I bought a Douglas fir and found a cocoon on it, which I housed in a jar. The cocoon opened today with this not-a-butterfly bug. 4 wings. 2 larger ones and 2 sort of smaller fairy wings on top. About an inch long. I was hoping that you could please help me identify it. I don’t know where the trees were grown. I tried to take some photos but he won’t sit still. He likes honey. The cocoon is in the photo. Thank you a lot !
Signature: Rhonda

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Sawfly emerges from Cocoon

Dear Rhonda,
We are able to identify your insect as a Sawfly.  Sawflies are nonstinging relatives of bees and wasps that often have larvae that are mistaken for caterpillars.  Your individual most closely resembles the Cimbicid Sawflies (see BugGuide), possibly even the Elm Sawfly, though it looks more to us like a member of the genus
Trichiosoma which we also found on BugGuide.  The Cimbicid Sawflies are the largest North American Sawflies and they have clubbed antennae like your individual, but the information we have found does not list Douglas Fir as a host plant for the larvae.  They feed on deciduous plants including elm, honeysuckle and cherry according to BugGuide.  We did do a search for Sawflies that feed on Douglas Fir and we found an Oregon State webpage devoted to members of the genus Neodiprion, called the Douglas Fir Sawflies or Balsam Fir Sawflies, however the images posted to BugGuide do not resemble your individual.  It is entirely possible that your Sawfly was feeding on another plant and somehow the cocoon was spun on the Douglas Fir.  The Forestry Images Website indicates of the genus Cimbex (and so possibly also other members of the family Cimbicidae) that “The larvae spin tough, papery cocoons in the litter or just below the surface of the soil.”  There is also a photo of the cocoon of a Cimbex Sawfly on the Forestry Images website that looks like your cocoon.

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Sawfly emerges from Cocoon

We are hoping that one of our readers will eventually be able to assist us in a more definitive identification.

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Cimbex Sawfly

Dear Daniel
Thank you so much for your help. I will do my best to keep him alive until the weather warms up. Too bad he doesn’t like roses or lettuce or anything else that’s lurking about in my fridge. He is quite an inquisitive little bug and checks out everything I give him.
Thanks again,
Rhonda

 

Australian Sawfly, we believe

Wasp?
Location: Perth, Western Australia
December 21, 2011 2:30 am
I was wondering if you can identify this wasp or fly for me. It was on my clothes line on a peg at 7am on 20/12/11. It was quite big – 3cm not including the antenna, and was photographed in Perth, Western Australia.
Signature: Jennifer O

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Sawfly, possibly

Dear Jennifer O,
In our opinion, this appears to be a Sawfly.  Sawflies are in the same order, Hymenoptera, as Wasps, Bees and Ants, but Sawflies do not sting.  We cannot find a match on the Brisbane Insect website, nor did we find a convincing match on the Lifeunseen website.  The Australian Museum website indicates there are 176 species in Australia.  Larvae of Sawflies are sometimes mistaken for caterpillars and they are communal feeders that may defoliate plants if they are especially numerous.  Perhaps one of our readers will be able to either correct our identification or provide a matching online image that may identify the species.

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Unknown Sawfly, we believe

Fork-Horned Sawfly

Double antennae’d Diprionid!
Location: Central Illinois
December 3, 2011 8:04 pm
Hey there! I thought I’d send in some pics of a very interesting sawfly I found a couple months back, but only got to keying a couple weeks ago. Seems this little Diprionid has forked antennae! Really it only has two antennae, with only two scapes and pedicels, but four flegelli. Do you think this is normal for the species, or did I stumble upon a mutant? It’s got my entomology professor (and me!) baffled.
As always, loving the site! It really helped me stay motivated in my Entomology class. Thanks for all your work maintaining it!
Signature: Entomologist in Training

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Fork-Horned Sawfly

Dear Entomologist in Training,
By far you have better qualifications to answer that question than our entire staff combined.  We will post your intriguing images and letter and we hope our readership can provide any information.

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Fork-Horned Sawfly


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