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Sawfly Larva

Hey, about that bright yellow caterpillar…
Hey,
I ran into another one of the same kind today and I took it back for a picture so, disregard the previous email. But it’s this bright yellow caterpillar, found in the redwood forests of northern california (Humboldt County), and I think it was on an Alder tree. When I put it back, it seemed happy to be back on the trunk. I’ve never seen this before, so please help! I’ve already gone through your pages. Thanks
Katie Schmidt

Hi Katie,
Sawfly Larvae are often confused for caterpillars. This is a Cimbex Sawfly, and they are related to wasps.

Pigeon Horntail

Pigeon Horntail Photos!
Me again, (Cindy from Ajax, ON). Here’s my last email to you guys. The reason I originally checked out your site was to identify this creepy looking wasp that was crawling up the brickwork of the front of our house. Now that I know it’s a pigeon horntail, and that you had a hard time of getting pictures – here you go! Two of the pics aren’t in great focus, sorry. But one is good. I was kinda afraid of it and didn’t take the time to set up the macro feature on my camera. I’m curious, do these things sting or bite humans? Also, by the description on your site, it appears to me this is a female. One of the pics looks like she’s trying to lay her young in the brickwork. I don’t live near a forested area, but do live in northeast America. Would just north of Lake Ontario be an area where these are typically found? I’ve never seen something like it before. Lastly, is September a common breeding time for them? I took this last year in September & noticed the person who sent you a picture recently took it last month, September, as well.
Again, really cool site.
Cindy
Ajax, ON CANADA (just east of Toronto)

Hi Cindy,
Our DSL signal went dead the day before you wrote and we just regained it yesterday. We are working overtime to post some of the mail that came in during that week (477 letters). Pigeon Horntails do not sting. We don’t know for sure what the breeding season is. Thanks for the image.

Pigeon Horntail

Bug Question
I live in Weymouth, MA and I found this bug in my house. What the heck is it? Thanks
Jenn

Hi Jenn,
This is a Pigeon Horntail, Tremex columba. It is a non-stinging wasp relative. The larvae bore in wood. If you have firewood in the house, it may have emerged from the wood pile.

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Pigeon Horntail

Here’s another for ya!
I ran into this on the same hiking trip… Never saw it before and my ID books are at school. Can ya help? Thanks
cg

Hi Chad,
Nice Pigeon Horntail, Tremex columba, image. We can’t wait to post your mating Walkingsticks as soon as we properly identify the species. Where were these images taken?

Cimbex Sawfly Larva

Found in Labrador
Hello, I found this catepillar on the Trans Labrador Highway east of Labrador City, NL in September 2005. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen one. Could you please tell me what it is? Thanks. Cool web site….
Rick

Hi Rick,
Often mistaken for caterpillars, Sawflies are actually related to wasps. This is from the genus Cimbex.

Italian Sawflies

Apple green caterpillar with yellow dorsal and black spinacles
Hi,
I live in Milan and have a rose creeper on my balcony that has recently become the home for 25+ caterpillars. I have been searching around but I have yet to find out what they are. Your site’s excellent and seems to have everything so I’ve probably just missed it somewhere. Please could you take a look and let me know what you think they might be?
Many thanks!
Lucy

Hi Lucy,
These are not caterpillars which metamorphose into butterflies or moths. These are wasp relatives known as Sawflies. Sorry, can’t tell you the species.

Pigeon Horntail

New Ichneumon for your site?
I’ve been perusing your site and just can’t get enough! Great photos, quick and entertaining wit, and solid information. Your dedication shows! Thanks for doing this : ) Now on to our bug in question. My daughter and I spotted this lovely insect on one of our many outdoor "expeditions" for fun. On Sept. 18, 2005 this beauty was clearly laying eggs in the lichen-laden bark of a tree near the banks of the Fox River in northern Illinois (Aurora IL). I have been unable to find a photo of it on your site and was hoping you’d further identify it for me. An interesting thing to mention was that within it’s vicinity, within inches, there were two ovipositors stuck in the bark, minus the insects’ bodies! When I tried to pull them out they wouldn’t budge and broke off. Dummy me, should have taken pictures first. Do you know if these insects commonly die while depositing their final eggs or sometimes get their ovipositors stuck? At the base of the tree we did find the dried-up body of another of these insects, minus the ovipositor.
Thanks so much!
Michelle & Becky N.
Lily Lake, IL

Hi Michelle and Becky,
This is a Pigeon Horntail, Tremex columba, the host insect of the Giant Ichneumon. Horntails are Sawflies, wasp relatives. They have wood boring larvae that the larval Ichneumons use for food. We have heard reports of both Horntails and Ichneumons dying in childbirth, dying with their ovipositors stuck in a trunk.

Sawfly Larvae

Caterpillar identification (hopefuilly!)
Hi!
I was digging around hoping that I could ID these guys. I am in upstate, NY (finger lakes) and this was taken Sept 13, 2005. They were happily munching on some Pignut Hickory leaves until I disturbed them, and then their butts went up in the air. I tried touching them with a stick, and they have an amazingly strong ability to push on the stick and act quite aggressively. I have never seen these before, and am hoping for an ID. Thinking of going back there and gathering a couple to wee what they become. Probably a dull, grey moth.
Thanks!
Mark Wyman

Hi Mark,
Sorry for the delay. This one was tough. These are not caterpillars, but the larva of a wasp relative known as a Sawfly. We actually found it while researching a spider wasp after our caterpillar searching turned up nothing. It appears to be Croesus latitarsus, or something very closely related. We located a link on BugGuide that says they raise their bodies to defend themselves.

Pigeon Horntails

Any idea what the heck this is?
Good evening.
Well I went out tonight to cut down two dead maple trees and that’s when I saw them. Unfortunately they are dead, I thought maybe they were wasps (as we have had problem with them lately) but after the deathly spraying I noticed they looked like nothing I had ever seen. The protruding black, well let’s call it a tail, was sticking in the tree?
Thanks,
Chris
Michigan

Hi Chris,
These are Pigeon Horntails, Tremex columba, and they are wasp relatives, but do not sting. The portruding tail is a female’s ovipositor, and she uses it to deposit eggs under bark so the wood boring larvae will have a food source. We have heard reports that sometimes she gets stuck and dies attached to the tree, and your letter substantiates that.

Colorado Pigeon Horntail

Wasp??
Dear Bugman,
You have a great site. Wish I had found it years ago… I live in eastern Colorado and have never seen wasps like this before. I found two, very large wasps(?) on the ground at the base of a dead tree. One flew off, slowly circled and landed on the same tree and began crawling down, dragging and jabbing it’s "tail/stinger" along the bark. Is it laying eggs? Searching out insects? The other wasp was dead- It has a body length of 1 3/8" (it was the smaller of the two wasps) with 1/4" antenna and tail/stinger. It has the yellow and black stripes on its abdomen. It doesn’t have the common thin wasp waist. I hope you can tell me what these are? It was great fun to watch and photograph. Thank you so much for your time and attention,
CC

Hi CC,
This is a Horntail in the Family Siricidae. The most commonly depicted species is the Pigeon Horntail, Tremex columba, but your specimen is marked differently. We are relatively sure it is the genus Tremex, but are unsure of the species. Horntails are related to wasps but do not sting. That stinger-like ovipositor is used to deposit eggs under bark so the wood boring larvae will have a food source.

Ed. Note: We later contacted Eric Eaton who wrote back: “It IS Tremex columba. The book “Bagging Big Bugs” lists it for the Rocky Mountain states, and the image in there matches yours perfectly. “

Tremex columba

Pigeon Horntail
Hi WTB…
I found a bug on your site I could not ID. THANK YOU! Interesting enough, you have indicated that it’s found in forests of the Northeast. This guy was photographed on the sidewalk in front of my house in Round Lake, Illinois (far Northeast corner). It’s not the first time I have seen this species but was the first time I had a camera available. Here are two views.
Thanks for the great web site!
Robert Fesus
Buffalo Grove, Illinois

Hi Robert,
We just love it when people look at our site for research and identification. Thanks for the images. When we first posted stories about Pigeon Horntails, we could only locate one image on the web, which we pilfered. Thankfully, we now have several sent to us directly.

Horntail

Mystery Bug
Hello,
This bug drilled a perfect hole in the ceiling of our newly refinished basement, any ideas? It was found dead under the hole covered in sheetrock dust. Any clues to solve this mystery would be appreciated.
Greg Martin

Hi Greg,
Your Horntail species did not drill a hole into the ceiling, but rather bored out of the ceiling. The larvae are wood borers. Our guess is the wood used in the refinishing was infested, hopefully with a single larva, and when it matured, it drilled its way out.


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