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Sawfly Larva, we think, from India

Red-chilli like larva
February 28, 2010
The person who took this photo thinks it is a beetle larva.
Suhas
West Bengal, India

Sawfly Larva, we believe

Dear Suhas,
There are not enough anatomical features visible in this photo for us to conclusively categorize this larva.  We don’t believe it is a caterpillar or a beetle grub.  We tend to favor it being a Sawfly Larva.  Sawflies are related to bees and wasps, and many species have larvae that resemble caterpillars.  Perhaps one of our readers will be able to assist in a species identification.

Dear Daniel
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. I will certainly gather more details from the photographer and send it to you soon.
regards
Suhas

Pigeon Horntail

What’s That Bug?
February 28, 2010
Found this on the side of the house approximately 2 inches in length was using the long protrusion from it’s rear to poke into the little holes of the brick. Notice the stinger on it’s rear also.
KG
Defiance, Ohio

Pigeon Horntail

Dear KG,
This is a Pigeon Horntail, a type of Wood Wasp, and its behavior is highly unusual.  The protrusion is the female’s ovipositor, and she uses it to deposit eggs beneath the bark of diseased, dead or cut wood, so there is no real reason for her to be poking around your bricks.  Even more unusual is finding her in the dead of winter when there is considerable snow on the ground in Defiance, Ohio.

Ahhhh thank you very much sir, i took this photo last summer was just looking through my pics and wondered if there was a site that could tell me what this was (good name for your site btw) : ) I have a photo of another bug with a long nose i don’t know what it is, if you’re interested if not i won’t bug you. : )

Sawfly Larva: What does more damage? A Sawfly Larva eating Leaves or a Crew Cutting Branches???

Found this larva in gunni euc tree need id?
February 23, 2010
While cutting gunni euc one of my workers found this worm. I need it id to know if I it is harmful. It is white had has black spots on the side. The face almost looks like it is smiling. Please help!!
Jennifer
Watsonville ca

Sawfly Larva

Hi Jennifer,
This is the larva of a Cimbicid Sawfly, a non-stinging relative of wasps and bees.  The Sawfly larva will eat some leaves, and we believe it is doing far less harm to the plant than the workers who were probably cutting branches.


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Seagrape Sawfly from Honduras

Possible sawfly laying eggs
November 4, 2009
I was encouraged by Eric Eaton (Kaufman Field Guide to Insects of North America) to forward my question and photo to you for help in identification. He indicates that the insect is not a cicada, but is most likely a sawfly of some type. Thank you in advance for any guidance you can give!

My original question to him:
On September 8, 2007 I noted this (and numerous other identical) insects all laying eggs in similar clusters on the underside of leaves on a small tree. The tree had somewhat leathery leaves… perhaps a ficus of some sort? The location was within 100 feet of the ocean on the west end of the Honduran island of Roatan. I initially thought the insect was a type of fly – but am now convinced it is a cicada of some type. It seems to be morphologically similar to the Emerald cicada, Zammara smaragdina, from Honduras – photo at this site:
http://nathistoc.bio.uci.edu/Honduras/Hemiptera/Zammara%20smaragdina.htm
Over the last two years, I have contacted a series of individuals looking for help with ID, to no avail. Can you help?
Karen
West End of Roatan Island, Honduras

Unknown Insect lays eggs

Seagrape Sawfly lays eggs

Dear Karen,
First, let us say that your photograph is lovely, and the insect is an interesting specimen.  We are quite intrigued that Eric Eaton referred you to us since we constantly depend upon Eric to make corrections for us.  We do have several contributors who love the challenge of identifying exotic species that we post, and we hope Karl is reading.  Our first thought is that this might be a Free Living Hemipteran in the suborder Auchenorrhyncha, which includes the Cicadas.  Eric Eaton has pointed out in the past that there are many exotic families found in the tropics that are not represented in temperate areas.  If Eric believes this is a Sawfly, we do not want to disagree.  We would strongly recommend that you provide a comment to our posting so that if six months down the line, your insect gets identified, you will be notified.  We do not maintain a database of email addresses for our readership, and though we send emails directly at the time of posting, once time has elapsed, we would not be notifying the querant directly. We would also inquire if you have any images showing the head of the insect as that might help to narrow the field of suspects.

Thank you for your comments.  With the help of both Eric Eaton and Dave Smith (research entomologist retired from the Smithsonian), I now have the identification for this sawfly.  Here is Dave Smith’s comment:
Argidae:  A sawfly, Sericoceros mexicanus (Kirby). For a good article on this, see:
Ciesla, W. M. 2002. Observations on the life history and habits of a tropical sawfly, Sericoceros mexicanus (Kirby) (Hymenoptera: Argidae) on Roatan Island, Honduras. The Forestry Chronicle 78(4): 515-521.
The plant must be seagrape, Coccoloba uvifera. Females lay eggs in clusters on the leaf, and stand guard over the eggs until they die. Larvae feed on the leaf edges. Sericoceros mexicanus occurs from southern Mexico to Panama. Other species of the genus are found from Mexico to S. Amer. and in Puerto Rico.

Once we had a name, finding more images online was easy.

Pigeon Horntail

Wasp or hornet? (or Queen ant disguised?)
September 15, 2009
Hi Bugman,
My mom and I came across this ENORMOUS and spectacular insect at the playground the other day (end of summer) Are we looking at a queen in training or a dying
cicada or sorts or WHAT????
Thanks. Leela (10 yrs old)
Montreal. Canada

Pigeon Horntail

Pigeon Horntail

Hi Leela,
This is a type of Wood Wasp known as a Pigeon Horntail.  It is a female that lays her eggs under the bark of trees.  The larvae are wood boring grubs.  The larvae are the main food source of another spectacular insect, the Giant Ichneumon.  Pigeon Horntails do not sting.

Argid Sawfly

Giant orange caterpillar
August 29, 2009
Can you identify this caterpillar? Seen in eastern PA on a canal towpath in August, length about 4″, width over .5″.
Elissa
Bethlehem PA

Argid Sawfly Larva

Argid Sawfly Larva

Dear Elissa,
Unless this is an irradiated mutant, we doubt that the Argid Sawfly Larva you found was 4 inches long.  Argid Sawflies are not Caterpillars, but are non-stinging relatives of wasps.  We cannot tell you the exact species, but we are linking to an image on bugguide that looks similar to your example.

Butternut WoollyWorm

White cottony caterpillar
August 22, 2009
What is this?? My husband and I found several in our garden. We believe they are feeding on young sumac or lilac trees. We have studied caterpillars and moths/butterflies for some time and have never seen this before. Thank you for any assistance.
Donna Riedinger
New Jersey, USA

Butternut WoollyWorm

Butternut WoollyWorm

Hi Donna,
Though the Butternut WoollyWorm, Eriocampa juglandis, resembles a caterpillar and is often mistaken for a caterpillar, it is really the larva of a Sawfly.  Sawflies are classified with Ants, Bees and Wasps.  According to BugGuide:  “Larvae feed on leaves of Black Walnut (Juglans nigra) and Butternut (Juglans cinerea). Also reported on Carya spp. (Hickory).
“  The potential host trees you mention are not listed in any sources we used.  According to the Auburn University website:  “Fully grown larva are densely covered with white, cottony or woolly filamentous flocculence.

Butternut WoollyWorm

Butternut WoollyWorm

Argid Sawfly, but what species???

sawfly larvae on hazelnut leaf
August 20, 2009
Hi WTB, I found these creepy caterpillars chomping on my contorted hazelnut. Finally determined that they are sawfly larvae but can’t find an exact match on your site. They look like they are made of green jello – yuk! Any idea what species they might be? Thanks for all your help and for maintaining such a great site!!!
Laura
Southeast PA, north of Philadelphia

Sawfly Larvae on Hazelnut

Sawfly Larvae on Hazelnut

Hi Laura,
We agree that this is an Argid Sawfly in the family Argidae.  According to BugGuide, the Birch Sawfly, Arge pectoralis, feeds on Hazelnut as well as birch and other trees, but the larvae have orange heads and the heads on your individuals are black.  We are pretty confident the genus is Arge, but we will have to postpone exact species identification.

Sawfly Larvae on Hazelnut

Sawfly Larvae on Hazelnut

California Wood Wasp

What is it? Wood Wasp/Horntail?
August 17, 2009
We live in Western Washington State, and we were just remodeling our new house that we bought which is located in a very wooded area. We had all the doors and windows open while working. Two of these insects flew in and my husband said they were very aggressive. He said they were going after him trying to attack. I’ve been trying to research what kind of insect it is, but can’t find an exact match. It looks a little like the pictures I’ve seen of wood wasps or horntails, but I’m not sure. It was about 2 in long! Do you have a better idea of what this is?
Laura
Covington, Washington

Wood Wasp:  Urocerus californicus

Wood Wasp: Urocerus californicus

Hi Laura,
We are exerting a bit of creative license and calling your native insect, Urocerus californicus, by the common name California Wood Wasp,  There is only minimal information posted on the information page for this species on BugGuide, but Eric Eaton has the following information on an individual posting on BugGuide:  “It is indeed a female U. californicus (orange wings, all-black abdomen). I’m envious. In all my years in Oregon I never once saw one of these alive. They must be like buprestids: emerge briefly in large numbers such that if you aren’t in the neighborhood that day, you would never know they existed:-)
Wood Wasps cannot sting, and what appears to be a stinger is the female’s ovipositor.

Dogwood Sawflies

What’s that caterpillar?
August 14, 2009
Hi –
I love your site and browse it for pleasure when I have time. One damp, overcast morning in August I found an outbreak of these caterpillars on the leaves of my red-bark dogwood shrubs. We live outside of Philadelphia, PA and have had an incredibly wet summer. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Betsy
Merion Station, PA

Dogwood Sawfly Larvae
Dogwood Sawfly Larvae

Hi Betsy,
These are not Caterpillars, but that is a very easy mistake to make.  These are the larvae of Dogwood Sawflies in the genus Macremphytus.  We are linking to a matching photo on BugGuidePenn State Woody Ornamental Integrated Pest Management website has a wonderful explanation of the life cycle of the Dogwood Sawfly.  It states:  “Dogwood Sawfly, Macremphytus tarsatus, is a significant pest to dogwood (Cornus) species. Because the Dogwood Sawfly takes on several forms while in the larval stage, it may not be easy to identify. Even the first instars can devour small portions of leaves, with groups of them producing a skeletonized appearance to the leaves. However, the larger final instar can consume entire leaves, leaving only the tougher leaf midribs.”

Giant Wood Wasp

Can you tell me what kind of bug this is?
August 10, 2009
Just got back from a camping trip in Teller County Colorado and this bug landed on my leg. I have searched high and low on the web for pics of this insect.
Please help, Thanks Jon and Family
Colorado

Giant Wood Wasp

Giant Wood Wasp

Dear Jon and Family,
This is a Giant Wood Wasp, Urocerus gigas.  It is also called the Greater Horntail Wasp or the  Yellow Horned Horntail.  According to BugGuide:  “Range Introduced, originally from Europe and Asia.  Habitat  Attacks five or more genera of Pinaceae  Remarks  It tunnels in wood. One of the most dangerous pests of conifers. We will be tagging your post as an Invasive Exotic.

Correction:  August 12, 2009
Not an invasive exotic wood wasp
Daniel
I was certain that U. gigas the exotic form has yet to be established here in the US.  Upon discussion with our entomologist he is positive it is Urocerus gigas flavicornis (Fabricius) which is a native subspecies.  Colorado is just one of the states that it can be found.   You had me worried there for a minute.  Our cups runith over with exotics as it is like Sirex noctillio.  Great work as always and glad to see you folks have links to get in touch with the proper agencies that handle exotic invasive pests.  I encourage your readers to become aware of exotic invasive pests, report new finds and help protect our resources.
Can’t wait to see your book
Thanks
Brian
Brian.Sullivan@aphis.usda.gov

Elm Sawfly

Large Black Fly
July 30, 2009
Hello!
My sister-in-law found this critter as it tried to take a short rest on her shoulder. We didn’t get a very good picture of it, but to be honest everyone was kinda scared of it! He is about 1.5 to 2 inches long, which makes it the largest fly I’ve ever seen in this area. The location is northern New Hampshire, and this was in late July.
I did a bunch of research online, but it doesn’t match anything I can find. The split-wing and yellow stripe are what seems to be throwing me off. He has a head that looks more like a hornet than a fly, but no stinger.
Hope you can help, and thanks for your time!
Tristan
Littleton, NH

Elm Sawfly

Elm Sawfly

Hi Tristan,
The reason this Elm Sawfly has a head that looks like a wasp is that they Sawfly is in the same order of insects as Wasps, Hymenoptera.  Flies only have two wings.  You may read more about Elm Sawflies on BugGuide.


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